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अंग्रेज़ी विकि से लाया गया वार्ता अंश [copied from User talk:David Levy]

This is regarding inclusion of Hindi wikipedia in the list of wikipedias over 30k articles.One of the condition for inclusion of a wiki in such a list is so called random test. check this link. But When I clicked on 'Random Article' link for 50 times. I saw only 5 articles containing greater than 5 lines, and two of them are English articles copied as it is from English wiki. Can you take a look at it and do the needful? —రవిచంద్ర (talk) 07:08, 26 June 2009 (UTC)

I conducted the same test and arrived at a similar result. Indeed, it appears that most of the Hindi Wikipedia's articles are stubs or placeholders (including some in English). Accordingly, I have removed this Wikipedia from the list. —David Levy 18:09, 26 June 2009 (UTC)
Manipuri wikipedia too does not confirm to the random test. Please have a look at this also. —రవిచంద్ర (talk) 05:59, 30 June 2009 (UTC)
I agree. Accordingly, I've removed that Wikipedia from the list. —David Levy 06:53, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
From the template's revision history: Added Hindi. This has 30K+ articles. Don't agree with David that it has 40% articles in English or not enough to count as articles. Shyam 07:46, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
1. I just again viewed 50 random articles, and only four were not stubs or placeholders. I hope that you aren't relying on the tables of content to judge, as a great many pages consist of multiple headings for empty sections. (These placeholders contain even less content than most stubs do.)
2. I don't know where you got the "40%" assertion (or how you can dispute even that). If the Hindi Wikipedia contained 60% acceptable articles, this wouldn't be an issue. The figure appears closer to 10%.
3. This was not a unilateral action on my part; it was the application of a consensus-backed standard that has been equally applied to numerous Wikipedias. Your reversal was unilateral and selective; you obviously are not impartial. Please participate in the discussion and seek consensus for the Hindi Wikipedia's inclusion. Thank you. —David Levy 17:25, 2 July 2009 (UTC)
Agreed. I've just conducted the 50-article test and saw three articles, at most, that appeared to be of substance and weren't just stubs or nearly-empty skeletons. -CapitalQ (talk) 05:15, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
Follow-up: A glance over the site's Speical:LongPages reveals stubs, lists and skeletal articles appearing as early as the 2,500 mark; concrete evidence that the count of substantial articles is under 30,000, if not under 2,000 (as plenty of the first 2,000 are partially or fully in English[1][2][3], or consist solely of tables[4][5][6] among other things). -CapitalQ (talk) 07:57, 3 July 2009 (UTC)
CapitalQ, your links are helpful. Agreed, if the main page's intention is to show 20K useful self-language pages which should not be stubs. Can you ensure listed tlwp has 20K useful self-language, non-stub articles, which has about 22K articles in total? Thanks, Shyam (T/C) 14:12, 3 July 2009 (UTC)