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Sir, I created an article named as यादृच्छिकता. You deleted it, though the article has a relevant significance. May I please know the appropriate reasons for getting it deleted. The corresponding english article is Randomization >नितिन ग्रेवाल

Nitin, article was in very poor shape, and I suspected it as copyright infringement because of the following reasons:
  1. It was written as an essay, without any sectional division. A Wikipedia article should be divided into sections with headings.
  2. Article wasn't completely in Hindi. This is a Hindi Wikipedia, so you aren't allowed to write in any language other than Hindi in the article namespace.
  3. Article had no wikilinks—links to other articles of Hindi Wikipedia.
  4. It didn't have any source/reference.
These points are indication of possible copyright infringement. But I've resurrected the article and expect you to improve it with the above recommendations. — Bill william comptonTalk 17:51, 30 नवम्बर 2011 (UTC)

Regarding fake GA's

I suggest using श्रेणी:उत्तम लेख to remove all GA status from the articles available in this category and then deleting the category as well since now उत्तम लेख is श्रेष्ठ लेख. Thanks आशूबातकरें 13:20, 1 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

Ashliveslove, if I replace GA status with श्रेणी:उत्तम लेख, then this category would remain populated, meaning I won't be able to delete it. I've made few proposals on the talk page of Mayur, and if he agrees with them then I'll delist all the good articles, so that they could be renominated for the process. — Bill william comptonTalk 14:05, 1 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Hmm. I'll go and change the category of that template to श्रेणी:श्रेष्ठ लेख so that श्रेणी:उत्तम लेख will not be repopulated again. And if you know how to create a bot to remove उत्तम लेख template and श्रेणी:उत्तम लेख from articles than that would be very useful since i see more than 6000 articles in that category and to remove each and every one manually will be hectic. I've also requested on English wiki to migrate GABot to Hindi wiki if they can. आशूबातकरें 14:14, 1 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Also remove that साँचा:उत्तम लेख since I'm not able to tag it for deletion through twinkle. आशूबातकरें 14:21, 1 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

श्रेणी:Creative Commons Attribution 3.0 images

Hi! Do you think the screenshots in this category is (still) needed? --MGA73 (वार्ता) 18:23, 2 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

As conference (Wikimania) has been completed, and files aren't used on any page, so it's safe to delete them. — Bill william comptonTalk 20:38, 2 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Mayur said the same. All unused could be deleted... :-) --MGA73 (वार्ता) 15:40, 3 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

श्रेणी:Self-published work

Have you seen? Not many left :-) Not sure how many of the files left is actually own work / free. If you have a few minutes some day perhaps you could have a look and help tag/fix the files that is not ok. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 17:58, 6 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

It took a while, but I've deleted more than half of the images. Few queries:
  1. चित्र:व्योम कला दीर्घा .jpg — How to interpret FOP-India in this case?
  2. All those monochromes don't give any results after Google image search (of course excluding hi.wikipedia.org), so how am I supposed to judge that user didn't take those images? Although, I'm pretty sure that these are also the results of some sort of copyright violations but this is just my instinct—after dealing with lots of non-free images from this particular user (Poornima Verman). Any solution? or we should ask for the OTRS permission? — Bill william comptonTalk 02:33, 7 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
talk page stalker
AFAIK, FOP-India applies only to works installed permanently in public places. But this particular image seems to be from an art gallery exhibition(therefore not permanently installed). Hence, in my humble view, this image would classify as a copyvio.
PS:Bill, are you sure those newspaper clippings were copyvios?--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 23:46, 7 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Yeah, because they were the result of derivative work. All the clippings had images and Indian Copyright Act, 1957, forbids the reproduction of any kind of literary work in which information is conveyed wholly or mainly by means of pictures. Regarding the FOP-India, the problem is that image is not totally focused on any particular painting. — Bill william comptonTalk 00:22, 8 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
I know that they were derivative works, I just don't know if the original is still under copyright. Wouldn't the 60pma rule apply? And if it does, who do we consider the author for a newspaper?--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 08:00, 8 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Cool! Thank you for cleaning up :-)
1) I agree that the photo is not ok. Even if it is not focused at one single painting. The paintings are very clear and the paintings are the main subject. I would say that the same apply to चित्र:Books of Bismil.jpg because the books are the subject (and not just something that happens to be on the photo). A good way of desiding could be to ask "Would the photo still be usefull if I cropped out the copyrighted elements?" (the paintings and the books).
2) It is not easy. I moved almost all of the files to Commons and leaving only those I was not sure about so I was not surprised that some of them had to be deleted and that some are not easy to judge easily as either ok or not-ok. If google or tineye gives no hits then we have to judge by the text on the file pages, the knowledge we have about the uploader and if the photo looks like a copyvio. Or perhaps the easy solution is to ask the uploader (if (s)he is still active) :-D If uploader tells us it is not own work we know what to do or perhaps uploader could upload the original photo (uncropped and with meta data as a proof). So perhaps we should leave a note to all uploaders asking about the photo(s) they have uploaded? --MGA73 (वार्ता) 07:25, 8 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
1 file in the category can be deleted as "NowCommons" and I will move 4 other files to Commons tonight. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 07:33, 8 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Micheal, I've gone through this phase. User is not so much active—almost retired, he has no past of uploading free images, actually all of his uploads are/were copyrighted, files have no meta data, and most importantly leaving a note won't help much. But as a gesture of courtesy, we may leave a note on his talk page, and it would be much better if you do that as some people already here perceive me as deletionist and sarcastically call me deletion master. — Bill william comptonTalk 11:11, 9 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Ok I will nominate the files for deletion then. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 21:24, 11 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Files claimed to be free are here. I checked the uploads and normally he does not claim own work on non free files. His userpage says that he is a poet, writer and journalist so it would be natural if he had contact with other writers. So there is a chance that some of the files are actually own work. Do you have a page like en:Wikipedia:Files for deletion where a deletion can be discussed? Or do you discuss on the talk pages of files and articles? --MGA73 (वार्ता) 22:01, 11 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Like विकिपीडिया:Articles for deletion? --MGA73 (वार्ता) 22:21, 11 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Hehe ooops... See सदस्य_वार्ता:Siddhartha_Ghai#विकिपीडिया:Articles for deletion. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 22:51, 11 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

Do you have a good help page?

Hi! I was asked on my talk page by सदस्य वार्ता:मनीष वशिष्ठ how to fix श्रेणी:Non Licensed Images uploaded by मनीष वशिष्ठ (fix files without a license). I replied on users talk page and user made this edit. The file still need a license so I was wondering if hi-wiki has a good help page I could link to? Or perhaps someone could try to help in Hindi? --MGA73 (वार्ता) 08:10, 9 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

Don't think we have a good help page for this yet. But I did explain the basics in hindi to the concerned user.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 10:43, 9 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Micheal, unfortunately, we don't have any such page or I'm not acquainted to it. Also, I was expecting your response regarding signatures.
Sid, what's a name of MOS page here?, I need to give a link to this user at his talk page. — Bill william comptonTalk 10:54, 9 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
The MOS page that was recently made is वि:शैली मार्गदर्शक. Although I doubt if its going to be of much help. वि:अच्छे लेख लिखने के सुझाव seems a little better. Btw, I looked for the help page on images but there's next to nothing in श्र:विकिपीडिया सहायता as of now. We have a lot to do.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 12:12, 9 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)


Hi, I need a little help with merging {{Infobox}} and {{ज्ञानसन्दूक}} into ज्ञानसन्दूक. Apparently, there've been some changes between the two versions as copied from en, and I'm a little in over my head with this. Could you perform this merge? Thanks a ton :)

PS:There's no hurry. You can do it later if you don't have time now.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 12:22, 9 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

Please check the status, this is what you meant isn't it?.<><  Bill william comptonTalk 13:12, 26 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Well, you've merged them and no articles seem to have gone haywire, so yeah, that's what I meant. Thanks :) सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 19:35, 26 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)


Hey, I need a little copyrights help. User:Flaxindia's contributions have mostly been copyright violations from http://flaxindia.blogspot.com . I've nominated most for speedying as copyvios(or reverted to copyvio-free revisions where those were present). But कलौंजी is a bit weird. All his contributions to the article can be mostly summarised in this diff. It appears the user has actually manually translated this article from the blog. Is this still copyright violation? How to proceed(Revert or not)? Thanks.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 21:07, 11 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

User is called Flaxindia and blog is called flaxindia so perhaps it is the same person? Perhaps user could send a permission to OTRS or make a small note on the blogspot confirming that (s)he is the same as User:Flaxindia. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 21:21, 11 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
I checked the files Flaxindia uploaded. Even if we get a permission from blogspot I doubt it will be enough. There is no proof that the blogspot user has the copyright to all the files. I think they should be deleted. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 07:38, 14 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
It is most probably the same person. And most images are copyvios, but some images could actually be saved, I think. How do we go about OTRS?--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 09:09, 14 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Sorry for the late reply, actually I may not be available in most of the December. Sid, can you specifically mention those savable files? because most of the files uploaded by this user give the sense of incertitude. Before opting for OTRS you should discuss the whole matter with User:Flaxindia, if he/she intends to follow the Wikipedia proviso then you may consider other ways. For OTRS ticket you may consult OTRS Wiki or any OTRS admin as Hindi Wikipedia has no such facility.
Even if he manually translated the content but there is no guarantee of quality of reliability. We usually (actually in almost all cases) avoid information from blogs unless this is not a case of SELFPUB. — Bill william comptonTalk 10:55, 14 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
About the article: Most of the information added seems to be encyclopedic in nature. The unsubstantiated claims can be removed but the information on the plant's physical appearance, taxonomical information etc. is useful. I think sources for it can be found. And I don't think we have a policy of removing all unsourced content. The only problem is, if even the translation is considered a copyvio, it has to be removed. Else, we might be able to keep it.
As for the images, I found the following which may not be copyvios(I haven't googled, these are just the ones that don't contain any obvious copyright violation).
चित्र:Kedar.jpg:Probably own work, but no forseen encyclopedic use
चित्र:Glut-4.jpg, चित्र:CoQ-101.gif:Might be own work, dont know if the information is correct, needs license.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 11:43, 14 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
I have never said that we should remove unsourced content, unless it's defamatory, hoax or non-verifiable. Yes, translation without proper attribution is also considered a copyvio, but this case is dubious. Only concerned user can make things clear.
All these images are out of scope. We don't need such mockeries, and Kedar.jpg is also unavailing for any possible encyclopedic usage. So, it's better to delete them.<><  Bill william comptonTalk 23:59, 17 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Some are unused. I see no reason to keep those. The ones that are in use should be checked one by one but I think that most of them are copyvios. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 00:13, 20 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)


Hey, I was thinking of diluting the DYK norms a bit to promote more frequent updates. Since we have a low number of users and almost nobody seems to be interested in it, wouldn't it be better if we diluted the 1500 chars norm to 500 chars. After all, its better to have the main page updated with info from smaller articles than to not have the main page updated at all. The rest of the conditions can be easily kept, and shouldn't be much of a hindrance I think(except maybe, if you want to increase the 30 day period to 60 days). I'm asking for the char dilution specifically since I might've been able to get at-least two DYKs(सरोज स्मृति, ऐडम मलिक) were it not for them not being 1500 chars. I believe 500 chars to be an easily achievable target for any page, which might lead to more interest among the users, and hence to more frequent updation. Also, could you clarify if the char count includes the refs and section headings or not?

Thanks and Regards --सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 20:18, 17 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

How about we remove this barrier of time? because we get very few articles of satisfactory quality in a month. I think text of the article must be at least 800 characters, 500 is too small, however, we can always make exceptions for the extraordinarily interesting facts. Only the prose portion of the article counts; excluding any references, headings, infobox, tables, sections like "See also", "External links", even "Notes" too, block quotes, categories, etc. Sorry for being pessimistic in this case, but I don't think much users would be interested in the DYK section. As always, only the "In the news" section has remained a top priority of the Hindi users. Also, instead of updating daily, we can change the threads once a week, so that we can have more articles in our hands.<><  Bill william comptonTalk 23:45, 17 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
OK, left a submission here per the 800 char norm.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 11:21, 18 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
PS:Don't forget to put the DYK templates on the article talk, nominator(my) talk and creator talk page. Thanks--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 11:26, 18 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

Sorry I forgot what category we were working on...

But I started सदस्य:MGA73/Cleanup. Perhaps we could use that as a page to note things to remember and to have the recent link to the category we could be working on? --MGA73 (वार्ता) 21:49, 20 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

Hi Michael, I'm so into this cleanup process but I'll be proactive only after the Boxing day. <><  Bill william comptonTalk 00:55, 21 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Is the text on hi-wiki junk? चित्र:Wikipedia video tutorial-1-Editing-en.ogv. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 19:58, 23 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)
Hmm...<><  Bill william comptonTalk 22:22, 23 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)


Can you add some more points to "Do you know?" bcoz this section seems small in new main page and also we have to put some old DYK in former section so when you remove form current section please add it to former section.Have a good day--Mayur (talk•Email) 05:22, 23 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

Okay Mayur, I'll take care of that.<><  Bill william comptonTalk 11:40, 23 दिसम्बर 2011 (UTC)

विकिपीडिया:क्या आप जानते है(पूर्व-प्रदर्शित)

Hey, you deleted this page with a log that doesn't make much sense to me and results in a redlink on the main page! So, I'm undeleting it for now. :) सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 20:01, 2 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

regarding 1900

plz help me to make infobox for 1900 olympic games(Rahul kaushik (वार्ता) 17:15, 3 जनवरी 2012 (UTC))

regarding dead links in समुंदर के लुटेरे: मुर्दे का खज़ाना

Can you plz mark out the dead urls in the article so that i can remove or replace them. i'v started converting references to hindi now. आशूबातकरें 07:03, 4 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

Ref No. 16 and 67.<><  Bill william comptonTalk 09:30, 4 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)
They are working now. Isn't there a tool here like they have in Eng wiki to check dead links? आशूबातकरें 09:33, 4 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)
I've expanded the article as you've suggested. See if anything else is remaining or need to be added. Regarding Access dates, if the references are working properly then I think there's no need to renew them. If you find any more dead links please mark them in the article since more references get added there is a chance that the reference number will change. I have to finish this article as soon as possible so that I can move on to स्टार वॉर्स एपिसोड IV: अ न्यू होप to complete it. Thanks आशूबातकरें 08:25, 5 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

चौपाल पर नया प्रस्ताव

नमस्कार, चौपाल पर अन्य विकिमीडिया परियोजनाओं से ली सामग्री के संबंध में कुछ समय पहले हुई चर्चा के निष्कर्षों के आधार पर चौपाल पर आम सहमति की प्राप्ति हेतु एक नया प्रस्ताव रखा है। आपसे निवेदन है कि इसमें अपने विचार एवं सुझाव दें ताकि इस प्रस्ताव के उपयोग से हिन्दी विकिपीडिया को अधिक बेहतर बनाया जा सके। धन्यवाद --सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 19:03, 4 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

एंजेलिना जोली

I've started converting red links to blue. Update the article and filmography. I hope then we can nominate it for FA. आशूबातकरें 11:07, 5 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

eɪ æ ɛ

  • train, brain, bait === ट्रेन, ब्रेन, बेट
    • IPA: े === eɪ
  • trap, hat, fat === ट्रैप, हैट, फैट
    • IPA: ै === æ
  • best, test, rest === बॅस्ट, टॅस्ट, रॅस्ट
    • IPA: ॅ === ɛ

Referred to en:Wikipedia:IPA_for_English by the way. Clear enough? Need ो ौ ॉ ?

:) --सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 10:39, 6 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

Btw, this differs from en:Wikipedia:IPA_for_Hindi_and_Urdu.

Right, correction: ए and hence, े are en:Close-mid front unrounded vowel. eː

ऐ and hence, ै is en:Open-mid front unrounded vowel. ɛː

But note here that ए is pronounced somewhat longer than yell but (possibly) shorter than as Americans may pronounce Yale.

Also, ऐ is pronounced longer than in yell. The yell sound is what ॅ is intended to represent, somewhat shorter than ऐ . Hope I'm not confusing you. :) सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 10:49, 6 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

Sid, at least I'm getting an idea about the Hindi phonology. Thanks for making me clear about this pesky crescent :). Actually, whenever I write anything in Hindi then for its authenticity (of course for few tricky words) I cross check via ghits or Google Translate, and many times they give very different results than your assertions, but we all know how reliable they are. So, perhaps by the time, under your guidance, I won't make such stupid mistakes, thanks again for all your help and support.<><  Bill william comptonTalk 04:03, 9 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

भाषा साँचे

विलियम जी सुझाव देने के लिए धन्यवाद। लेकिन मैंने कोई भाषा कोड नहीं बदला है। मैं केवल नाम को हिन्दी में कर रहा हूँ ताकि लिखने में सुविधा हो। Lang-de लिखने के लिए पहले मुझे देवनागरी लेखन अक्षम करना पड़ता है और फिर लिखना होता है। लेकिन नाम हिन्दी में भी उपलब्ध रहने के कारण भाषा-जर्मन लिखना सरल है। और दूसरी बात यह कि हर किसी को भाषाओं के कोड याद नहीं भी रह सकते हैं। ऐसी स्थिति में हिन्दी नाम से सम्पादकों को सुविधा होगी। जैसे यूनानी भाषा का कोड el है जिसका ग्रीक या यूनानी से कोई मेल नहीं है। इसलिए जिसको भी याद होगा वह भाषा-यूनानी आराम से लिख लेगा लेकिन Lang-el लिखने के लिए उसे पहले यूनानी भाषा का कोड ढूँढना पडे़गा। इन बातों को ध्यान में रखकर मैंने नाम हिन्दी में किए हैं और पुराने नामों की ओर पुनर्निर्देशन भी है इसलिए आप Lang-de लिखें या भाषा-जर्मन, पृष्ठ पर दोनों का परिणाम एकसा दिखेगा। रोहित रावत (वार्ता) 14:43, 8 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

रोहित जी, वो तो मुझे समझ पहले ही आ चुका था कि आप कुछ सही कार्य करने का ही प्रयास कर रहें होंगे। परन्तु, आप साँचो के नाम बदलने के स्थान पे हिन्दी नाम को अनुप्रेषित भी तो कर सकते थे? दोनों ही रास्ते सही है, परन्तु सभी विकिपीडिया परियोजनाओं पे अपनाए जा रहे मानक को हमें हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पे भी अपनान चाहिए। ISO 639-1 एक मानक है, इसलिए मेरे विचार से यही सही होगा कि हम नाम तो मानक के अनुसार रखें परन्तु हिन्दी नामों को वहां के लिए अनुप्रेषित कर दे, इससे दोनों फायदे हैं।<><  Bill william comptonTalk 14:58, 8 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)
हाँ आप सही कह रहे हैं लेकिन यह काम बढ़ाने वाली बात है कि पहले तो एक बार नामों को हिन्दी में करो और फिर उन्हें पुनः मूल नामों पर वापिस ले आओ। ISO 639-1 मानकों से कोई छेड़छाड़ नहीं की गई है। रोहित रावत (वार्ता) 15:05, 8 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)


Hey, I see that you've used this in 1896_ग्रीष्मकालीन_ओलम्पिक. But it isn't working. Maybe you could have a look at it?

PS:I'm writing this here since this is not really an FAC point, just something we should fix. (And you seem to be pretty good with templates :) ) --सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 02:48, 9 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

Would you please elaborate, in what respect it's not working?<><  Bill william comptonTalk 04:06, 9 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)
When I click on यंग 1996 in the संदर्भ section, it should move the screen to the appropriate ref in the ग्रंथवृत्त section (as it does on clicking the examples at en:Template:Sfn), but it doesn't. It currently seems to be working for यंग 1996 but not for लेनार्त्ज़–वैसोन्ग 2004. Last time I checked, even यंग 1996 wasn't pointing me to the correct ref. Anyways, even if its linking correctly (which I'm unsure it is); it still isn't producing a blue highlight like on en. Maybe there's a problem not with how this template works, but how the cite templates generate html tags? (Coz I do see the #CITEREFblah on clicking, but the screen doesn't move to the appropriate ref, maybe the refs aren't producing the correct span ids?). And is the blue common.css styling? Or there's something wrong elsewhere?
Anyways, bottomline is: Its not working entirely as expected (and as you can see above, I have no clue where its going wrong)--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 20:22, 9 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)
Sid, please accept my apologies for responding so late. There's so much going on right now, both in real world and on English Wikipedia, and there's a lot of adjusting to make. Whole procedure is like this: when you click on any numbered reference id, let's say Ref2, it generates 1896 ग्रीष्मकालीन ओलम्पिक#cite note-FOOTNOTEयंग1996चैप्टर 4-1 and takes your screen to यंग 1996, p. चैप्टर 4 (with blue highlight), and when you click on it, a unique identifies is generated, 1896 ग्रीष्मकालीन ओलम्पिक#CITEREFयंग1996, which directs you to complete citation mentioned in the ग्रंथवृत्त section. So, "it's linking correctly", and yes it's Common.css. I think, beside Mayur, you can also make changes there.<><  Bill william comptonTalk 05:54, 14 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)
Thanks for clearing this up. You were right, it was a problem with Common.css, have fixed it now.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 19:19, 24 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

Self-nomination for File mover rights

Hi Bill, I have nominated myself for file moving rights. As you might already be aware, I try to take care of newly uploaded files and images. This right would come quite handy for me. Hence, please consider polling your vote. TIA. -- लवी सिंघल (वार्ता) 05:21, 14 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)

उत्पात नियंत्रक के अधिकार हेतू

मैंने स्वयं को इस अधिकार के लिए नामांकित किया है. कृपया अपना मत व्यक्त करे. आशूबातकरें 11:27, 26 जनवरी 2012 (UTC)


बाकू आतेशगाह चुनने के लिए धन्यवाद! --Hunnjazal (वार्ता) 17:31, 2 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)

मुखपृष्ठ में परिवर्तन

कृपया मुखपृष्ठ में प्रस्तावित परिवर्तनों पर अपनी टिप्पणी/समर्थन/विरोध विकिपीडिया:चौपाल#मुखपृष्ठ के पेज व्यूज में उछाल पर व्यक्त करें। धन्यवाद --सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 20:00, 4 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)

साँचा:Ús de la plantilla

Hey, thanks for deleting this template. Could you also have a look at सदस्य_वार्ता:Mayur#Speedy_deletion_nomination_of_साँचा:Ús_de_la_plantilla where I've listed some related unused templates for deletion. Thanks--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 05:36, 7 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)

Regarding 1896 ग्रीष्मकालीन ओलम्पिक

Let if be GA until they make it an FA. Once the review committee passes the FA status then remove the topicon. I've started doing this for all the articles who qualifies for GA. आशूबातकरें 10:34, 11 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)

Ashish, this is a terrible idea. You're not supposed to tag articles with GA on your own; you should have asked for other community members before taking any such step. Be patient, we still don't even have stable criteria for GA. So, focus on that part first.<><  Bill william comptonTalk 12:06, 11 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)
Bill, it already takes lot of time in assessing a FA. Right now first of all other users should know that GA's are been assessed and such criteria exists. There are so many articles which are already been made to be a GA, they just need cleanup of Redlinks and other little stuffs like images etc. When there'll be a few articles to set examples then only one would be able to know what GA's are. आशूबातकरें 12:10, 11 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)
Ashu, I'm just asking you to wait for a while. Okay, nominate one or two articles, and I'll review them. Similarly, ask others. Any any such major decision without community's approval is anti-Wikipedia. I hope you'll understand.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 12:28, 11 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)
Well I'm just making other ready for this status, nothing else since GA will be more compared to FA, and we have to do a little loose checking compared to FA's on hindi wiki and GA's on English wikis else there will be no diff bet'n GA and FA here. Will prepare two to three full articles for nominations. You can find such articles in श्रेणी:श्रेष्ठ लेख योग्य लेख. आशूबातकरें 12:40, 11 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)
Regarding this same policy of deletion may be adopted i mean one reviewer can nominate and another can approve it.--Mayur (talk•Email) 15:38, 11 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)
hmm. That's always the same case but only thing is some times even we become confuse of the known or unknown personalities of which articles are tagged or created. Rest one line stupid articles are deeted without warnings. आशूबातकरें

Just to note, I gave it a go-ahead for FA a while ago, and I think Mayur also supported it. I wonder why it hasn't been declared as an FA yet (Maybe noone noticed that it has two supports?). Regards--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 15:38, 12 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)


मेने परीक्षक पद हेतु निवेदन किया है कृपया अपना मत दे(राहुल कौशिक 09:34, 15 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC))


जैसा कि आपने खुद कहा कि फ्रांसीसी में Duris को कई तरह से उच्चारित किया जा सकता है पर जहां तक नाम का सवाल है उसे हमें वही उच्चारित करना चाहिए जो मूल भाषा में किया जाता है पर साथ ही हमें अनुवाद की भाषा की प्रकृति का भी ध्यान रखना चाहिए। जहां तक आईपीए उच्चारण का प्रश्न है मैं इसे नहीं समझता और साथ ही गूगल अनुवाद पर भी ज्यादा भरोसा नहीं करता। मेरे विचार से इसे ड्यूरिस ही होना चाहिए। मै आपसे भी अनुरोध करता हूँ कि आप कम से कम मेरे द्वारा किये गये किसी भी सुधार को अपने काम में हस्तक्षेप न समझें।Dinesh smita (वार्ता) 18:35, 15 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)

दिनेश जी, आप यह क्या कह रहें हैं, आप मेरे से उम्र और अनुभव दोनों में ही बड़े हैं, आपके किये गये किसी भी कार्य को मैं हस्तक्षेप तो कभी नहीं समझ सकता। आप हिन्दी विकिपीडिया के कुछ उन सदस्यों में से एक हैं जिनका मैं बहुत अधिक सम्मान करता हूँ। आपसे एक बार पुष्टि करने से मेरे हिन्दी ज्ञान में वृद्धि ही हुई है, जिस पर मैं आगे भी ध्यान दूँगा, धन्यवाद।<>< Bill william comptonTalk 21:49, 15 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)
बिल आपके द्वारा दर्शाये गये सम्मान के लिए आपका बहुत धन्यवाद। आपके इस संदेश को पढ़ कर मुझे बहुत खुशी हुई। आपके बहुत कम अर्से में ही अपने हिन्दी ज्ञान में अभूतपूर्व वृद्धि की है इसके लिए आप प्रशंसा के पात्र हैं और इस कारण मैं भी आपकी बहुत इज़्जत करता हूँ। कभी मिलजुल के किसी लेख पर काम करना चाहें तो मुझे बताईयेगा, मुझे आपके साथ काम कर के खुशी होगी।Dinesh smita (वार्ता) 17:50, 16 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)
धन्यवाद दिनेश जी, शीघ्र ही हम किसी लेख पर मिल के कार्य करेंगे, और मुझे उस पल की प्रतीक्षा रहेगी।<>< Bill william comptonTalk 04:37, 17 फ़रवरी 2012 (UTC)

hi, if you get time review these two articles for GA at विकिपीडिया:श्रेष्ठ लेख नामांकन

आशूबातकरें 11:26, 2 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

Surely, will review one.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 12:32, 2 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

मॉनमाउथ लेख "क्या आप जानते हैं?" पर

Updated DYK query आपके द्वारा लिखें गए या काफी सुधारे गए लेख मॉनमाउथ के तथ्य को क्या आप जानते हैं? में 9 मार्च, 2012 को प्रदर्शित किया गया। अगर आपको हाल में बदले गए किसी लेख से कोई रोचक तथ्य पता है तो कृपया उसे "क्या आप जानते हैं?" संवाद पृष्ठ पर सुझाए।

सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 21:03, 9 मार्च 2012 (UTC)


Kindly comment at above link.--Mayur (talk•Email) 05:12, 10 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

Please also review a hook.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 00:51, 17 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

Noticeboard comment

Hi, we recently reset a bunch of the userrights here on hi.wiki. Could you notify the local noticeboard here of meta:Steward_requests/Permissions/Approved_temporary#Expiring:_20_September_2012? I can't find it with the different script. Thanks. MBisanz talk 16:56, 20 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

I assume you're referring to the Village Pump of Hindi Wikipedia, it's at second from top. Although, I've given the notification.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 17:11, 20 मार्च 2012 (UTC)
Thanks! MBisanz talk 14:12, 21 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

Congratulations on becoming an admin

Hello, following the conclusion and results of the Request for Comments on meta on the situation here on hiwiki, see m:Requests for comment/Userrights on Hindi Wikipedia, several userrights have been removed and you have been made a temporary sysop/admin here till the 20th of September this year. If you're active on IRC, you can request access to the global admin channel #wikimedia-admin by contacting any user from the list on m:IRC/wikimedia-admin. Please do not hesitate to contact me or any steward if you have any questions, either on our meta talk pages or by dropping by our channel at #wikimedia-stewards (connect). Regards, Snowolf How can I help? 17:12, 20 मार्च 2012 (UTC)


नमस्ते बिल।

सर्वप्रथम "क्या आप जानते हैं" के सन्दर्भ में दी गयी advice के लिये आपका धन्यवाद।

जैसा कि रोहित ने चौपाल पर बताया वर्तमान इनपुट प्रणाली में समस्याएँ आ रही हैं, और mw:Extension:Narayam इन सबको हल करने में सक्षम है। मैंने इसके transliteration rules को जाँचा है और उनमें कुछ सुधार सोचे हैं। ये सुधार और इनके पश्चात हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पर Narayam एनेबल करने का प्रस्ताव मैंने वि:चौपाल/Narayam पर रखा है। कृपया इसे अपना समर्थन प्रदान करें ताकि हिन्दी विकिपीडिया पर इनपुट प्रणाली आसान बनाई जा सके। धन्यवाद--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 14:52, 21 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

स्पष्ट करें

बिल जी। 'क्या आप जानते हैं ' का नियम पुनः पढ़ा फिर भी जानना चाहता हूँ कि आपने किन नियमों का उल्लंघन मानकर मेरे द्वारा किए गए परिवर्तन वापस किया है? क्योंकि एक तो उसके सारे नियम का पालन एकसाथ किया ही नहीं जा सकता है। दूसरा कई नियमों का उल्लंघन तो वर्तमान प्रदर्शित जानकारियों के साथ भी हो ही रहा है। थोड़ा स्पष्ट करें ताकि आगे कार्य करने में आसानी हो। अनिरुद्ध  वार्ता  17:34, 25 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

अनिरुद्ध जी, मुख्यपृष्ठ पर दिखने वाले हर लेख को विकिपीडिया के उच्च सत्तर का नहीं तो कम से कम विकिपीडिया की मूल नीतियों व दिशानिर्देशों का पालन करना चाहिए। जैसे लेख में सन्दर्भों की कमी न हो, लेख का आकार कम से कम 800 अक्षरों का हो, 'क्या आप जानते हैं' के लिए लेख को नामांकन की प्रक्रिया से गुजरना पड़ता है, सुझाया गया हुक लेख में इनलाइन उद्धरण के साथ हो, लेख की सामग्री निष्पक्ष हो, आदि। अगर हिन्दी विकिपीडिया का मुखपृष्ठ ही ऐसे लेखों, जिनमें खुद ही इतनी कमी हो, को दिखाएगा तो हम कैसे आशा कर सकते हैं कि विकि पे आने वाले नए सदस्य विकिपीडिया की मूल नीतियों का पालन करेंगे। हमें स्वयं उदहारण बनना होगा तभी हम औरो से आशा कर सकते हैं।<>< Bill william comptonTalk 18:14, 25 मार्च 2012 (UTC)
आपके लेखों व बदलाव में निम्न कमियां थी:
  1. हुक में लेख, जिसे 'क्या आप जानते हैं' में विशेष रूप से दर्शाया गया हो, वह बोल्ड होना चाहिए।
  2. सोहन सिंह भाकना में आपके द्वारा लगाया गया तथ्य संदर्भ के साथ नहीं है, बल्कि लेख में कोई संदर्भ ही नहीं है।
  3. अमरकांत लेख में साइटेशन ठीक नहीं हैं, जैसे संदर्भ में प्रयोग की गई पुस्तक का आईएसबीएन नंबर देना होता है।
  4. अमरकांत लेख डेड एण्ड है, मतलब यह विकिपीडिया के किसी भी लेख से नहीं जुड़ा हुआ है।
  5. सोहन सिंह भाकना मुश्किल से 50 शब्दों का लेख है।
  6. अमरकांत लेख लिखने की बुनियादी शैली का भी पालन नहीं करता।
अनिरुद्ध जी, मैं बस इतना चहाता हूँ कि कम से कम मुख्यपृष्ठ पे दर्शाए गए लेखों से नए सदस्य सीख सकें कि आखिर कैसे विकिपीडिया पे लेख लेखन चाहिए, आशा करता हूँ कि आप मेरे इस प्रयत्न समझेंगे।<>< Bill william comptonTalk 18:32, 25 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

आपकी इच्छा अच्छी है किंतु अभी की स्थिति में इसका पूर्णतः पालन नहीं किया जा सकता है। उदाहरण के लिए समाचार साँचे में सीरीया के दो शहरों का जोड़ है किंतु उनपर केवल १0 शब्दों के आलेख बने हैं। ऐसी स्थिति में या तो समाचार साँचे को अद्यतित न किया जाय या वही अद्यतित करे जो साथ ही ऐसे लेखों को भी अनिवार्यतः १00 शब्दों का बना दे। फिर तो समाचार साँचा अद्यतित नहीं हो पाएगा। यही हालत क्या आप जानते हैं की है। दूसरी बात यह कि निर्वाचित लेख ही वह लेख है जो किसी को विकिपीडिया के सही लेख लिखने की असली प्रेरणा देगा। शेष साँचों पर हम अंग्रेजी विकिया का मापदंड नहीं अपना सकते हैं। अन्यथा परीक्षा की शर्त इतनी कड़ी होगी कि कोइ उसमें बैठेगा ही नहीं। साथ ही हिंदी संसार की सच्चाई अभी कुछ और है। कई प्रतिष्ठित पत्रिकाओं के आइएसबीएन नंबर नहीं है। कई पुस्तकें इन संख्याओं के बिना हैं लेकिन महत्वपूर्ण इतनी कि उनकी अनदेखी करना अपना ही मजाक उड़ाना होगा। तथ्य को साँचा के अनुरूप बोल्ड यदि नहीं भी किया गया हो तो आप कर सकते हैं। और लेख की शैली में आगे से किसी नामांकन से पहले थोड़ा परिवर्तन कर देने की कोशिश करुँगा। साँचे की शर्तें थोड़ी ढीली करने के संबंध में कुछ सुझाव दिए हैं। उसपर साँचा के वार्ता पृष्ठ पर अपने विचार रखिएगा। धन्यवाद। अनिरुद्ध  वार्ता  23:18, 25 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

Categorization ...

I have observed that pages are badly categorized. One such example is Article on specific city is part of multiple categories and its sub-categories. e.g. इन्दौर is part of शहर, मध्य प्रदेश के शहर, भारत के शहर. Here it can be removed from शहर and भारत के शहर.

Are such changes intended? If yes may be i can help here using a tool.

Rajenver (वार्ता) 16:34, 29 मार्च 2012 (UTC)

Featured Article & Aaj kaa aalekh

Hi bill, I have retired myself from Wikipedia. Kindly take care of feature darticle and aaj kaa aalekh. Regards--Mayur (talk•Email) 14:54, 1 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)

XfD process

Hey, you have been eager in the past to get this process up and running. I've posted some views at विवा:पृष्ठ हटाने हेतु चर्चा about how to organise it. Please comment as and when you get time (no rush) :) Thanks.--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 04:35, 12 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)


पर सन्देश हैं।--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 04:24, 16 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)

आपके नामांकित लेख से एक तथ्य मुखपृष्ठ पर प्रदर्शित हुआ

Updated DYK query आपके द्वारा सुझाए गए लेख रूनी लिपि के तथ्य को क्या आप जानते हैं? मे 17 अप्रैल, 2012 को प्रदर्शित किया गया। अगर आपको हाल मे बदले गए किसी लेख से कोई रोचक तथ्य पता है तो कृपया उसे "क्या आप जानते हैं?" संवाद पृष्ठ पर सुझाएँ।

--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 18:43, 17 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)

OTRS request

Copy of message received at OTRS... Tickjet No. 2012042210005423

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I'm the owner of the blog "http://pk-photography.blogspot.com", where I post my pictures with brief descriptions. A user of your service have copied my images without any permission or even acknowledgement, which according to the best of my knowledge is harming my blog in many ways, for example people are considering my images free and copying them to their blogs/sites without any permission. Secondly, it effects my blog traffic adversely and I'm loosing my visitors. Thirdly, I don't have any control over my contents on your site.

Therefore, I request you to please remove my images or give proper credit to my blog. Location of my copyrighted Work: http://pk-photography.blogspot.com/2008/06/kantakari-solanum-xanthocarpum.h[..] Infringing URL: http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%AD%E0%A4%9F%E0%A4%95%E0%A4%9F%E0%A5%88%[..] Infringing images URLs 1. http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0:Kantakari-Solanum-Xanthocarpum.JPG 2. http://hi.wikipedia.org/wiki/%E0%A4%9A%E0%A4%BF%E0%A4%A4%E0%A5%8D%E0%A4%B0:Kantakari-Solanum-Xanthocarpum-fruit.jpg Feel free to contact me for further information, if needed. An early response would be highly appreciated.

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I've no idea how to possible propse deletion for copyright here - can you please assist? Thanks Ronhjones (वार्ता) 23:29, 22 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)

Done, and left you a message on your home Wiki's talk page.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 00:00, 25 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)

आपके लेख से एक तथ्य मुखपृष्ठ पर प्रदर्शित हुआ

Updated DYK query आपके द्वारा लिखें गए या काफी सुधारे गए लेख मॉनमाउथ गोल्फ़ क्लब के तथ्य को क्या आप जानते हैं? में 23 अप्रैल, 2012 को प्रदर्शित किया गया। अगर आपको हाल में बदले गए किसी लेख से कोई रोचक तथ्य पता है तो कृपया उसे "क्या आप जानते हैं?" संवाद पृष्ठ पर सुझाए।

--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 15:42, 23 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)


आपके लिए नया सन्देश है
नमस्कार, Bill william compton जी। आपके लिए वार्ता:मॉनमाउथ गोल्फ़ क्लब पर एक सन्देश है।
आप इस सूचना को किसी भी समय मिटा सकते है, इसके लिए वार्ता संपादन में जाकर {{सन्देश}} मिटाएँ।

सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 17:52, 23 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)


Although there's tons of stuff that needs to be done here, I've stumbled upon something which I find has the need to be prioritized. These user contributions need to be CCIed. I've identified and deleted between 5 to 10 of the user's created articles as copyvios from blogs (most probably self-written). 5-6 articles are currently tagged as copyvios in श्र:शीघ्र हटाने योग्य पृष्ठ. The problematic part is that the user has created over 50 articles that need to be checked, and I can't handle this volume alone. I think checking the rest of the contribs would be easier once we've identified and eliminated any copyvio articles created by the user. Thanks for the help (in advance).

Also, this got me thinking that we need an editnotice-like notice which shows up when creating new articles and lists the do's and dont's (like "Dont copy-paste from any website", "Dont create articles about yourself" etc.) I haven't (yet) been able to find out which interface message can be used for this. But we do need some kind of dont's list to prevent so many copyvios being created in the future. Regards--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 23:05, 23 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)

Ok, the interface message needed is मीडियाविकि:Newarticletext. Could you create a pretty notice listing the dont's which is hard to ignore for newbies. Thanks--सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 23:48, 23 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)
I'll start reviewing all his creations. Thanks for letting me know. I'll be happy to help.
I've recreated the concerned interface page. Let me know what else you'd like to see in there.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 23:49, 24 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)
The last sentence in the interface message seems to mean opposite of the intention (since the question below it says 'if the answer to any of the above is yes'). It should probably be made clearer (but I can't think of how without having a Do's section and a Dont's section seperately).
Oh, and we could possibly link वि:उल्लेखनीयता, and provide links to वि:प्रयोगस्थल and वि:स्वशिक्षा with appropriate messages. And the basic message "Please search for this article first" with a search link should be present. Thanks for the help :) सिद्धार्थ घई (वार्ता) 00:32, 25 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)

विकिपीडिया:कुँजीपटल शॉर्टकटस

चौपाल पर किए गए अनुरोध के चलते यह पृष्ठ अब लगभग बन कर तैयार है. देखें की इसे सहायता पन्नों से कैसे जोड़ सकते है. धन्यवाद. आशूबातकरें 07:59, 30 अप्रैल 2012 (UTC)


Bill जी,नमस्कार मैंने स्वयं को हिन्दी विकिपीडिया के प्रबन्धक अधिकार हेतु नामांकित किया है। आप से निवेदन है कि विकिपीडिया पर आकर अपना मत दे। यदि आपको मुझ मैं कोई कमी लगे तो ईमेल से भी बता सकते है। उस कमी को दुर करने का मैं पुर्ण प्रयत्न करुगा। धन्यवाद
आनन्द विवेक सतपथी सन्देश 10:09, 3 मई 2012 (UTC)

User need help?

Hi. Perhaps you could have a look at these uploads? I tagged with no license but it seems that the files have been taken from the internet (source Google etc.). Perhaps user need help? --MGA73 (वार्ता) 16:30, 3 मई 2012 (UTC)

If the files are taken from internet directly and they have incompatible licenses then you should tag them for copyright infringement. I'm still not sure what help he needs? Should I tell him about the image use policy of Wikipedia? What help is this you're referring to?<>< Bill william comptonTalk 16:38, 3 मई 2012 (UTC)
I agree that copyvio is better for files from the Internet but it is hard to find the right Twinkle button now the text is no longer in english. The problem is that source is Google but author is uploader. Perhaps we (you) could ask the uploader why this combination was chosen. And if the file is from Google then user should be told that it is not allowed. --MGA73 (वार्ता) 12:25, 4 मई 2012 (UTC)
I've warned the user about his edits and uploads. He is simply giving sources as Google to all his images. Moreover he even redirected Speedy deletion tag to wrong article. I suggest first of all to Fully-Protect all the deletion tags. Just keep an eye on his uploads and editing. I sense that account is causing vandalism only. If the user continues like this then feel free to block the account as warning was already given to him about this. आशूबातकरें 12:29, 4 मई 2012 (UTC)
Thanks both of you. I'll look into the matter.<>< Bill william comptonTalk 12:34, 4 मई 2012 (UTC)
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